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  Reverse Witnessing - Will NEVER work!

  by MissConfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a while since i spoke up.

  after a lot of 'tactful' questioning, i have come under the conclusion that witnessing ttatt with dubs will never work.

  there is nothing called reasoning with them.

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  TMS: very interesting.. "After all that was carefully explained, repeated several times, several different ways, he said: "Just remember, Jehovah sees all this."

  I have heard the same kind of "cookie cutter" responses/ phrases from different witnesses also. Things that are deep within them..

  That being said, what made you start doubting? or got you out? (My husband was an elder for 10's of years also, we are both out, along with our children)

  NY44: I am an 'independent thinker' (haha!) and we just left in 2012? +/- So, maybe, just maybe, there may be some left to reach? maybe they are new? (But, usually you can tell who 'thinks or doesn't think'... that is the question)
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  Anyone going to the memorial this year?

  by Pyramid God in

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  2. friends

  i was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.

  anyone else?.

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  I do not want to be part of their bragging rites at a later date.

  "See how many people attended the Memorial?! Jehovah is blessing us!! Your diligent hours spent preaching are paying off! "
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  July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

  par 9 and 10 .

  9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

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  cha ching

  Exactly, LeavingQuitely! lol

  Good one! Frankisepeakin!!

  SD7.. good start! but you missed one... "Reject empty speeches"

  .... no more going to the K Hall, D-Con ventions or C-Ass emblies!
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  If Jealousy is a sin, why is God a jealous God?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i'm sure someone will explain the difference between a. sinful jealousy and a holy jealousy..

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  cha ching

  Haha SparrowDown...

  I am 'so jealous' of your wit!

  We must go shopping sometime!

  cha ching!
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  What I said to my wife

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. social
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  all - so my wife told me she was going to the kh yesrterday.

  it has been a couple of months so i was a bit disappointed but i sucked it in.

  i thought about it for a while and when we had a quiet moment together i said to her: "i know you need to make an appearance every once in a while to avoid the risk of being asked to da yourself and being shunned.

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  cha ching

  I was going to suggest that you "do other things with her," but u already have done a great job!

  I really do think that 'being away from the meetings,' and having less propaganda hit you day after day, frees one's brain to think....

  If she CAN find friends "on the outside," I think this is also the major plus to 'surviving the shunning' and the 'exodus'

  hang in there, cha ching!!
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  July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".

  par 9 and 10 .

  9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.

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  cha ching

  I am soooooooooooooooo glad I am O... U.... T..!!!

  I would be so mad to have to sit thru this WT "lesson"

  I love to dance, I love to dance, I love to dance, I love to dance!!!!!!!

  You know, this might just be the 'egg cracker' for some people...
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  Reverse Witnessing - Will NEVER work!

  by MissConfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a while since i spoke up.

  after a lot of 'tactful' questioning, i have come under the conclusion that witnessing ttatt with dubs will never work.

  there is nothing called reasoning with them.

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  cha ching

  Here's something that bothered both my husband and I....

  Sitting at the 2010 District Convention, listening to the Bethel speaker make a joke about Harold Camping "How can someone be so stupid that they think they can guess the date and be wrong! Hahahah.. And people actually believed him!" (not exact words, but basic idea)

  The whole audience laughed along! My husband and I looked at each other, felt sorry for 'Harold' and thought, "this is so sad! they are laughing at people who are sincere, and what in the HECK has the WT been doing it's whole LIFE!? Guessing!!! Telling us WHEN Armageddon is coming, then blaming US for believing them!"

  This type of 'little' thing added up... helped us see the TRUE persona of the WTBS!
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  still pondering.......
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  cha ching

  Cofty, thx for the details.

  Next thing on my list.... research porcupines...

  cha ching!
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  Want to know why people accept evolution ?

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you have questions about or want to understand evolution?

  it is a difficult concept to communicate and so if it is not explained well , it is understandable that we would dismiss it.. i sincerely want to talk with people who want to learn more or see what all the fuss is about.

  we are all learning and increasing our knowledge all the time and it is good to go over facts with critical eye.. evolution we can discuss, looking at the foundational facts and evidence, one at a time for you to go and check, agree or disagree with and return.. no pressure to accept it, you can decide for yourself, also no mocking etc of what you have to say.. .

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  cha ching

  Wowzers and dowzers!

  Thx, TD & Cofty... and yes, I am having a bit of a fun day .. I am not trying to be mean... but still pondering..

  I guess I really wanted to ask those questions forEVer ;-)

  No, Cofty, I am not super duper educated, haven't read up on evolution to the max, but from the rules of nature that i see, I thought I was being logical.

  If I can, I'd like to ask you: Are you saying that everyone has the possibility of becoming an Ass? (haha) (Yes, just being 'ironic')

  But, seriously, I guess I'll have to study up on the possibilities of zygotes becoming anything they want to become. When I worked as a Teacher's Aide at a High School, the teacher had the kids make a 'gene chart' with possibilities of dog's tail length, eye color, fur, and leg length. The kids could only make 'dogs' within the gene codes of mom and daddy dog.. No exceptions. I do not understand how creatures can turn into other creatures if they are limited by their "genes."

  Aaaaaaannnddd, since you might be able to help me understand, Cofty, what about DNA? Chromosomes? and the "Periodic Table of the Elements"?? All of these things call for precision, order, and yes, design... Try making a chart yourself without any research, just start making things up, and you won't have 'order', predictability. Scientists knew that some of the elements existed before they were even discovered, simply because? yep, there HAD to be something between A B C and E F G. (I am not giving specifics, don't have too much time, but you are aware of what I am referring to, right?)

  Please go easy on me

  cha ching, pondererofpossibilitiesproponentoftruth